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Originally Posted by JMS
when the unborn is viable its no longer necessary to abort
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That it's not necessary to abort at "viability" says nothing at all about whether or not a pre-viability fetus is a live human being - which is the issue.
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your argument that life begins at conception is unfounded. where do you get this idea from? christianity? where?
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I didn't make any such claim - you're hallucinating.
Also I am an agnostic - I get my ideas from
reason and
ethics. To save it least SOME wasted back and forth with you, I will state my perception:
It is not known when a fetus may be considered a live human being, although it certainly is alive, and is of the species homo sapiens, after fertilization. The "cutoff point", if any, that might permit abortion, is not known. Lots of arbitrary "points" have been suggested, uninformed by any convincing supporting argument. That should be determined by a serious debate by philosophers, ethicists, constitutional law experts, and medical scientists from BOTH sides, in a public and thorough debate. That debate has never taken place, because the USSC in
Roe v. Wade short-circuited any real debate with a judicial
fait accompli, in one of the worst reasoned decisions in the history of the USSC. It was if the referee declared a winner before the contest began. Having gotten what they wanted with no effort, the pro-aborts were not interested in any real national debate, but rather focussed on preventing any whittling away of the abortion right, largely by pro-abortion slogans and politicking. I, however, think that it is certainly a reasonable conjecture that the fetus is a live human being (after all, all agree that it becomes one), and therefore until a REAL national debate of the kind that I desctibed above resolves the issue, prudent public policy should be to prohibit almost all abortions.