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Old 02-07-2008, 07:45 PM
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“If there were absolutely no reason to follow God, would you still follow him?” And what I took great pains to say in my previous post, was, no.
no. okay, thats a clear answer. your previous response was not clear. im very surprised at your answer, actually. its curious that you take my saying no reward, no afterlife as no value at all. you had some examples of positive influence in other posts and i was pretty surprised to see your response here. okay, so thats a no.

"that no “freak accident” could spawn both a flagellum and a pulsar"

no, not a freak accident, evolution.

"If I were you, I would stop looking at God with a smug, “I know better.” And do a little more careful examination of the facts."

thats some nice irony youve got there.

"Arguing with a liberal is like hitting a moving target."

and im no moving target, its apparent from your first response that you knew exactly what i was talking about. virtue is its own reward, i think thats a philosophy most people agree with, if they possess such qualities. i prove no point for you on considering virtues virtues. religion has no monopoly on virtuousness - appealing to others has a tendency to engender reciprocity, action and reaction.

on the matter of abortion and christianity, i have a few things id like to cite here. im sure youll readily point out mistakes if there are any, i know that im no expert:

Ecclesiastes 6:3 (King James Version)

"If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an untimely birth is better than he."

Exodus 21:22-25 (King James Version)

"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."
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