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concheet · #19 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 07:12 PM

I just read Ziggy's last post I would just like to comment on this:

You have about 6 million Israelis living life to its fullest and 3.5 Palestinians living behind walls and fences.

Did you ask topaz what it means to him to be "living life to its fullest?" Does that mean that he can drive through any of the Arab countries to go visit someone in Europe? What does it mean to have an Israeli stamp on your passport? What percentage of the population has had a family member killed, perhaps blown up? What percentage of the Israeli population has been maimed? How many times have Palestinians gone to a party on Friday night (to use your example) or a dance or restaurant and been blown into little pieces by Israelis? I'm not sure how normal that is.

As for the plight of the Palestinians, only in Jordan does the Palestinian get automatic citizenship. They are generally treated like dirt throughout the whole middle east. Israel actually treats them better (with the exception of Hamas in Gaza for obvious reasons) than their Arab brothers in Syria & Lebanon. Israeli Palestinians are considered 'rich' by the Egyptians. Do you know why?

Palestinians were kicked out of Iraq and Kuwait by the locals, not by the U.S.
PLO was kicked out of Jordan and Lebanon for violence. Check out Black September in Jordan.

Estimates of the number of the people killed in the ten days of Black September range from three thousand to more than five thousand, although exact numbers are unknown. The Palestinian death toll in 11 days of fighting was estimated at 3,400, though Arafat claimed that 20,000 had been killed.[5] one source

The PLO was born and raised in violence. I believe that the Arabs created & nurtured the Palestinian refugees in order to use them as a weapon against Israel and to get international leverage. As if some 22 Arab states in the UN wasn't enough, or some 52 or more Islamic States wasn't sufficient political leverage. Or that Arabs own the mass of the Arabic Pennisula. Add to that they control the main part of the world's oil and there is plenty of leverage on that side. The 'poor Palestinians' are supported financially almost entirely by the West. The Arabs don't do diddly for them. I figure it's a kind of dhimmi tax they put on us...to pay for these Arab refugees in perpetuity.

I do think that you will see eventually that the Arabs have created their own monster. That monster will live to bite its Arab brothers, and its Arab brothers will one day bite back, as I believe some are in Iraq.