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Old 02-15-2008, 02:39 PM
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usgrant, the reason why intelligent design proponents insist that it be equal to science is purely religious. how can you, of sound mine, really expect the scientific community to embrace conjecture with no scientific evidence supporting it? remember, theyre presenting it not as mere evidence against evolutionary theory (which is what it should be presented as), but rather a complete, alternate theory. do you realize how absurd that is? in order to fully appreciate the ramifications of such a juxtaposition, you first need to understand what science is. the fact that you must completely redefine science in order to rightfully proclaim that id is a valid scientific theory is proof positive that id advocates dont fully understand what science is, and therefore have no business dictating what is and is not science.

i urge you to read the entire transcript of the kitzmiller v dover case. its very, very long, but youll find a lot of information that will hopefully help you see why this intelligent design is science business is so absolutely ridiculous. keep in mind that broadening the definition of science (essentially destroying science as we know it) would mean anything could pass as science and enter into the classrooms. science would then teach astrology and who knows what else. whats next, palm reading and magic potions? correct me if im wrong, but arent christians generally against astrology? that was the case when i was brought up christian. michael behe unequivocally states that astrology would be valid science if id were declared admissible in science. i dont know about you, but i consider that a very slippery slope.

theories in science, they explain things with bodies of facts observed and tested, they explain things by proving things to be consistent and conclusive. intelligent design would have to explain something to be a scientific theory; it does not explain anything but rather gives up on explanation. does intelligent design explain the phenomenon of creation (gods creation)? no. intelligent design cannot explain this phenomenon because that cannot be tested, its the same reason why science doesnt try to disprove god, it simply cannot be tested. science explains what it can, it does not attempt to explain what it cannot.
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