Its plan to see that we will be staying in Iraq for a great may years to come , so debating Mr. John Arcane's Ridiculous notion of Withdrawal = failure is all politics (We ant going no-where-Embassy/ Oil / Iran) . The Need to withdraw our combat troops is a real scenario that has to happen. We are stretched beyond the point where we would not be able to respond to A HOME LAND SECURITY CRISIS; but maybe that’s the desired result? To say out loud that Americans would not mind if we stayed for 100 years is so out of step with what the American people actually want. If there is someone on this board that thinks the money we are "WASTING" and the lives that are being lost is worth it ; you my friend as Mr. John Arcane would say are crazy.

Our very own personal Palestine Just what the doctor ordered. I will admit it was inevitable that we would become entangled in an Arab country soon or later ; whether it had been by design or necessity ; but we have destroyed this country ; don’t anyone dare say they destroyed themselves because that will show that you are un-informed and stupid. I do not want this destruction to be in my name or with my hard earned blood money. We need out and that’s that. If we want to feel like are still there then match the daily spending here at home to repair this country and secure our boarders - oh I forgot we wont have boarders soon (North American Union). God help us all!