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Old 02-18-2008, 12:45 PM
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Prescribing death or a variety of crimes (adultery, homosexuality, unbelief) was not all that unusual. I'll give you the dietary laws.
I don't mean to be picky, but please give me the name of the religion at that time that prescribed death for a variety of crimes. Remember we are talking about roughly 1000 BC.
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Sure. Just like 1% of Christians or Hindus or whatever can cause incredible havoc.
The operative word is "can." That 1% of Muslims actually are.
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I fully support dealing as harshly and effectively as necessary with such people. *All* I get irritated about is people trying to say that the entire religion is the problem.
While there may well be good parts in the religion, the religion itself is so permeated with violence that it may well be the religion that is the problem. Of course I am not advocating wiping out all the adherents, and there is not a thing I can do about the religion either.
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I totally disagree. Because the same cultures that preserve atavistic Islam are incapable of modern governance, pretty much unable to develop indigenous technology, and aren't numerous enough to conquer the world by force.
Doesn't take numbers. eg Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. Just take a lot of good men to do nothing, right?

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But for oil, their economies pretty much suck -- and the oil will be running out before too long.They will be a thorn in the world's side for a while -- but they will remain a thorn, nothing more.
True...but they have 95+ % of all the world's known oil reserves. I hope you are right in your prediction.

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And if they don't, then I'll dust off my Army commission and get reacquainted with the inside of a tank. Just because I don't fear Islam doesn't mean I'll just roll over and bare my throat if a real threat arises.
Well, there you go. I am not advocating fear, lol. Just a healthy skepticism, watchfulness, and a readiness to pounce as necessary. I hope you are right and that Islam matures into peacefulness, but until then I advocate, as my Dad used to say, keeping your eyes peeled.
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