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No fetus feels pains when aborted
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How did you determine that?
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and if did your research, instead of relying on pro life websites, you'd get educated and know this.
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Oh the irony.
Please post your evidence that a fetus is incapable of feeling pain.
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It matters not whether it has 'done something' or not.
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It matters in this context, because you are claiming you do not consider it an object.
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Me: Really? So it can feed itself?
By 'independant' we mean it can breath independantly.
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So your only criteria for being a person is the ability to breathe independently?
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You honestly believe women walk into abortion clinics everyday and don't give a thought to what they are doing, and how it will affect them
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If what you are saying is true, they are irrational to be concerned, since the fetus is just an object they own anyway.
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Whatever the reason a woman aborts, has nothing to do with you.
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Pedophiles claim the same thing when I try to stop them from having sex with children.
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Me: White supremacists disagree with you. Just as you disagree with me that unborn children are people.
If you read a law book, it will tell you that a fetus is not a person.
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The law used to say that blacks were not people too. Things change.
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Me: So anyone in an old-age home needs to be terminated if they cannot walk or feed themselves. Correct?
I did not say that. They can breath on their own, they are still independant.
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So if they are hooked up to a respirator, they are no longer people?
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A newborn infant can breath on it's own, this is what is meant by being independant.
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Ok. So anyone hooked up to a respirator is no longer a person. Got it.
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I have no problem with free speech, but not when it borders on abuse.
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When does it stop being free speech and start being abuse?
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It is inher body for nine months, she has the right to decide whether or not it stays there.
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I disagree.
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Me: Then why did you bring up the examples of deformity or whatever at all? You just said it doesn't matter either way. So why bother bringing it up?
Some people would worry about such things. Some people would abort if their child was suffering some sort of deformity.
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But you wouldnt...so why bring it up at all? You are advocating the right to abort for any reason or no reason at all. Correct?
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Me: So in the case of conjoined twins, which one owns the other
You twist my words once again.
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How are they being twisted?
You made the claim that because the fetus is attached to the mother, the mother owns it. Conjoined twins are also attached to each other. So I am asking you which one owns the body.
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A fetus starts to become sentient around the 24th week. But despite this, nothing changes. It is still inside the mother, and still relys on her for nourishment.
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So sentience means nothing to you anyway with regards to what makes a person. So why did you bring it up?
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Yes, being unnatttached makes it a person.
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so Conjoined twins are not people in your opinion. Ok.
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Me: Why are they feeling guilt if the fetus is so obviously not a person?
You are obviously cold hearted if you think women give no consideration to their choice to abort.
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I am not the one killing a child for my own convenience. You openly admit the fetus is sentient, yet you still don't have a problem killing it.
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No, it's offensive because women should be able to obtain an abortion without being abused.
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What constitutes abuse? If I call you a name I am abusing you?
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Me: So the children of poor people should be aborted. Whats next? Racial abortions? People in China are already aborting based on gender.
China is not Australia, or the United States.
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Sure it is. At least in that context. There are no laws in the US preventing a woman from aborting a child because of Gender.
Would you really have a problem with someone in the US aborting a child because it is the wrong gender?