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Old 02-20-2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by abu-afak View PostReally?

Origins of the Koran

"...While modern Muslims may be committed to an impossibly conservative position, Muslim scholars of the early years of Islam were far more flexible, realizing that parts of the Koran were lost, perverted, and that there were many Thousand variants which made it impossible to talk of 'the Koran'.

ie. As-Suyuti (d 1505), one of the most famous/revered of the commentators of the Koran, quotes Ibn Umar al Khattab as saying: "Let No one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been Lost, thus let him say, "I have acquired of it what is available"
Aisha, the favorite wife of the Prophet, says, also according to a tradition recounted by as-Suynti, "During the time of the Prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be 200 verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Quran, only the current (verses) were recorded".

As-Suyuti also tells this story about Uba ibn Kaíb, - great companion of Muhammad:

This famous companion asked one of the Muslims, "How many verses in the chapter of the Parties?" He said, "73 verses." He (Uba) told him, "It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (about 286 verses) & included the verse of the stoning..."[/quote]
i think that either you understand this man wrongly or you falsify infrmation
but if this infrmation from As-Suyuti true , give me reference of this informaton (name of book , page number ...)

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Originally Posted by abu-afak View Post
As noted earlier, since there was No single document collecting all the revelations, after Muhammad's death in 632 CE, many of his followers tried to gather all the known revelations and write them down in codex form.

Soon we had the codices of several scholars such as Ibn Masud, Uba ibn Kaíb, ëAli, Abu Bakr, al-Aswad, & others (Jeffery, chapter 6, has listed Fifteen primary codices, & a large number of secondary ones). As Islam spread, we eventually had what became known as the metropolitan codices in the centers of Mecca, Medina, Damascus, Kufa, Basra.."

Uthman's codex was supposed to standardize the consonantal text, yet we find that many of the variant traditions of this consonantal text survived well into the fourth Islamic century. The problem was aggravated by the fact that the consonantal text was unpointed, that is to say, the dots that distinguish, for example, a "b" from a "t" or a "th" were missing. Several other letters (f & q; j, h, & kh; s & d; r & z; s and sh; d & dh, t & z) were indistinguishable.
In other words, the Koran was written in a scripta defectiva..."

there are No different versions of the Quran in the Arabic language, only different translations and of course, none of these would be considered to hold the value and authenticity of the original Arabic Recitation.
there is only one version , and this version not differ from aprox1400 years ago version that is the version which is written since 1400 years ago approxmiatly exist in some musum

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