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Old 02-20-2008, 08:57 PM
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Blade, those pages are not going to be all that detailed- please see the other candidate's pages for comparison. That said, you don't give this section enough credit.
The replies in your post add nothing to clarity, but also show Obama's evasions of the issues:

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Incremental additions have completely failed so far...
From the Factsheet at the bottom of the page. This sentence follows the one on the front, that Blade is refering to:

"Obama believes we need additional Customs and Border Protection agents equipped with better technology and real-time intelligence."

Ok so more agents- this won't help? I think you're guilty of some hyperbole with that "completely failed"- better tech and "real-time intelligence". A google including that phrase turned up this page: http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...il/sb-beat.htm
What's the big deal with this? Somebody is going to put another gizmo on the border. All this is a distraction, and although the border has to have reasonable security - it's NOT THE ISSUE, which is getting rid of the illegal aliens. Informed people now know the way to do that is drying up the employment for illegals by implementing real ID for employees, and enacting huge fines for corporate scofflaws. Obama wants to play the same game on this as Bush - occasionally make some news about some additional incremental ineffective border protection, while doing nothing about the real issue - THE 20 MILLION ILLEGALS WHO ARE HERE.

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Does he mean fixing the dysfunctional bureaucracy...
From a few inches down the screen: "Fix the Bureaucracy: Obama joined Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) to introduce the Citizenship Promotion Act..." And there is a few paragraphs in the factsheet, mainly outlining what the Act involves, as far as I can tell.
Yes, here we go again. When people became concerned about the dysfunctional bureaucracy, it was that they didn't track down people who overstayed their visa. Now LEGALIZING the people who should be thown out is "solving the problem???

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How will he do that? That's been the current system, in place since 1986, which the government has failed to enforce...
Its mentioned about three inches later, but more detail in the factsheet: "...Barack Obama has championed a proposal with Senators Charles Grassley (R-IA), Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Max Baucus (D-MT) to create a new employment eligibility..." so to answer your question, something new apparently. Somewhere you can see whats been proposed in the Senate I hope?
And there you go AGAIN!!! The "solution" to people being here and who should be expelled is to give them work???? That's like saying the problem to getting rid of mice in your house when your traps haven't worked is to feed them cheese.


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What does he mean, "undocumented immigrants who are in good standing"?...
"America has always been a nation of immigrants. There are millions of people living in the shadows who would like to fully embrace our values and become full members of our democracy. For the millions living here illegally but otherwise playing by the rules, we must encourage them to come out of hiding and get right with the law. Barack Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, not violate the law, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens."
America has always been a nation of LEGAL immigrants!!!!
We don't owe these people anything except to send them back to Mexico! The LAST thing we need at this juncture of history, with an extremely competitive global economy, is to be the dumping ground for 20 million of mexico's poor, and no doubt tens of millions more in the future. Can't you grasp that Obama and his like are pulling this stunt because they just want to get millions of more democrat voters, and they're willing to destroy this country, to turn it into something it isn't and much worse, just so they can grab and hold political power??
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