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Originally Posted by bugalugs
Have a read of the Old Testament and tell us if Christians or Jews can be loyal to a non Judeo/Christian government.
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I've read it. Both. And I would say yes, very clearly.
First, I am talking reality, not theoretical. Facts on the ground. Christians immigrated to the US several hundred years ago and established this country based on the idea that Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
We in America really value that freedom, Christians and Jews alike. And that First Amendment to the Constitution continues:
...or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
There is nothing incompatible in the Bible with that. In fact, Jesus was said to have put it this way:
“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).
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"The courageous over the infidels, make war for Allah and are not afraid... This is the depiction of the army of Allah that will come at Allah's decree, from here or from there, to liberate these lands from the defilement of the Jews, for Allah was angry with them in his book and called them once 'monkeys,' once 'swine,' and once 'donkeys.'" (Palestinian TV, March 30, 2001)