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Originally Posted by BlackWidow
Correct me if I am wrong but I like to believe that if the bible says to stone a child for any reason it was more of a metaphor. Meaning if the child did the parents wrong punish them. Not literally pick up a stone and throw it at the child. It is the same as the passage that reads "spare the child and spoil the rod"
Now I need to address what you said here I am everything that most people dislike, admittedly. I am a Christian conservative. I am a capitalist. I don't believe in separation of church and state(though I most emphatically believe that the church and state should NOT actually share power), and I was homeschooled. Now, I know those are all reasons that many of you will be inclined to dislike me, but let's bear with each other First of all I am not going to dislike you because of your beliefs. Your beliefs are yours and you are welcome to them. I do not dislike people because of their beliefs but how they treat me and my loved ones, so you will not be judge by be on your beliefs.
Now, I think there comes a time when the government needs to step in on the behalf of the child. I am a parent who thinks that the child needs to mind the parents at all costs. I allow my kids to have their own opinion yes, but if that goes against what I believe as an adult who has more experience then what I say in my house stands tall. I will let my children know I respect their opinion but at this time it does not apply. There are also times when I say " you know what? you are right and I will apply your opinion"
But there are a lot of parents out there, Christian or not who abuse their kids or that take the bible to literal and they are the ones who need to be helped by the government. Like I said someone needs to be their for the child.
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I think you mean, "Spare the rod and spoil the child." The rod can't well be spoiled or spared. =P
Well, in the regard to what you said about my beliefs, you're a shot ahead of several other people I've debated on other sites. =P
I agree with that, and of course parents should raise their children according to their values. The trouble comes in when the government does things like the case in California where a 17 year old autistic boy was removed from his home against the parents' will, given a medication they didn't want him to have(which, as they feared, worsened his condition) and then threw him in a mental hospital. That sort of thing is growing in amount, and it is a real problem. So I think that we need to have parental rights down in black and white, otherwise people are going to find loopholes and bend the rules.
A government like the United States government can only function if it is occupied by moral people, otherwise it falls apart. As immorality and relativism are increasing, provisions need to be made to make sure they can't do damage to a parent's right to raise his/her child the way he/she sees fit. While abuse does happen and the government needs to step in then, it needs to be written down pretty clearly what abuse is. Some might define it as merely, of course, sexual abuse or the deliberate infliction of pain, that is either a. for discipline but too extreme or b. not for discipline but out of cruelty. In these cases the children should be removed from the home, and the punishment against the parents should be steep.