Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

I do not recognise God, but I recognise choice right or wrong, that is why in a Democratic Soc you have laws created by the people, for the people.

Where do you think your laws originated from, religion is where. Religion was the basis for our morals and sense of decency.

That is why I find adherence to religious laws like "Sharia" an insult to my intelligence.

Most laws you obey now came from our religious beliefs so do you also find them an insult to your intelligence.

Was it not the descision of your founding Fathers to separate church from State.

I do not live in America but tell me if that is the case why on your dollar bill have you got in 'God we trust'.

I do not regard the termination of a foetus within the laws of your country or mine as murder, nor does the legal system in your country or mine.

Abortion is illegal in my country I'm irish. Also all I can say to you is liberalism is already getting to much a say round the world. Homosexuality is accepted so is prostitution, drugs. All these things and more people think should be legal, and all that does is help destroy our society.

So until that is altered, your rather infantile analogy with ref to "murder" is banal.

I am not arguing with you about abortion wether it is legal or not, I know it is not legal in the US. I am debating that it should not be legal as I believe it to be killing life inside the womb.

Would you like to discuss the laws governing infanticide in the UK US or the world, and how in certain races at times of famine when prayer for food did not work (has it ever) the religious leaders ordered the slaughter of children.

No I would like to talk about if abortion should be legal or not, after all that is what this topic is about, thank you very much.