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Originally Posted by JavaBlack
If the state is not under the control of the people, they are not identical concepts.
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Wonderful Non sequitur JB... There is no means for 'the people' to ever be in control... when 'the people' have embraced leftism. This is a result of leftism rejecting inalieanble natural human rights and rights where they may exist being vague entitlements assigned to the masses, where all responsiblity is assigned to the state. Ya see JB... Rights are purely a function of the responsibility, where there are no responsibilities, there are no rights. Leftist cultures seek to separate the individual from the freedom to be responsible for their lives...
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Originally Posted by JB
In the failed leftist ideologies
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All leftists idealogies are failures JB. The left is synonymous with failure, evil... The left is about deceit and darkness.
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Fascists always believed that that there were certain better people who should get to make the decisions for what is in the best interest of the people.
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So the fascists in believing that an anointed few were best suited to decide what's best for 'the masses,' is different HOW from the socialists anointed few who believed they were best suited to determine whats best for their comrade masses? See... JB, it works out the same.
Now I know you feel that
YOU don' believe this, but ya do... Here allow me to illustrate. >>>>
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Originally Posted by JB
That is not universal in that the poorest people will not afford any healthcare at all.
This is the biggest problem I have with the Right. They pretend that everything works out even when it doesn't! ... It's impossible to prove you guys wrong. You only see things as you want to.
We can't even convince you that problems exist until revolutions start.
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There ya see? Healthcare for the poorest people does not exist? Wrong.
There is not a single person in this country that does not have access to healthcare. But you're point is not that they can't find healthcare suitable to their means... because you know that they can. Instead YOU
demand that they be given healthcare far in excess of their means. And it's not a function of your compassion, where you're seeing people in need while
you possess the means to help them...
YOU see what
you feel is a need and demand that
OTHERS use
THEIR MEANS to help, while you feel good about helping them by stealing from others to do it.
You've set aside the responsibility of the individual for their own healthcare... even considering the cultural compassion wherein today, EVERY PERSON in the country can walk into any emergency room and find medical treatment; you demand that those without any means be ENTITLED to healthcare to the edges of medicine, without regard to the volume of labor required by others to make that happen... stripping the poor of their rights...
By requiring others to provide for them, you, by default, strip everyone of their responsibility for themselves and their actions... rendering 'the state' well beyond the control of 'the people...' subjecting yet another culture to the inevitable failure of which every leftist nation is destined.