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Originally Posted by Toby
ARE YOU ACCUSING THE UNITED STATES MILITARY OF KILLING THESE PEOPLE? ARE YOU ACCUSING IRAQI PEOPLE OF RUNNING AWAY FROM AN OPPRESSIVE AMERICAN MILITARY? YOU HAVE ALOT TO LEARN ABOUT OUR ENEMY!! WE ARE FIGHTING AN ENEMY THAT MURDERS ALL POLICEMEN, SOLDIERS, POLITITIONS WHO SUPPORT THE NEW IRAQI DEMOCRACY! AND IF THE ENEMY DOESENT HAVE ACCESS TO THEM THEY FIND OUT WHERE THERE FAMILIES LIVE AND DECAPITATE THEIR CHILDREN!! WE HAVE AN ENEMY THAT DETONATES BOMBS NEXT TO JOB FAIRS AND ELECTION POLLS! WE HAVE AN ENEMY THAT WEARS NO UNIFORM AND HIDES BEHIND THE INNOCENT BY FIREING AT US FROM MOSQUES, SCHOOLS, AND PEOPLES HOUSES! AND YOUR BLAMEING OUR TROOPS FOR THE ACTIONS OF OUR ENEMIES!!?? HOW DARE YOU! WE ARENT MURDERERS! WE DONT TORTURE! IM WILLING TO BET THAT YOU WANT THESE MURDERERS TO TAKE CHARGE OF IRAQ! IM WILLING TO BET YOU COULD CARE LESS OF WHAT YHEY WILL DO TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE!! IM WILLING TO BET THAT YOU COULD CARE LESS THAT OUR ENEMIES CLAIM VICTORY AND ESTABLISH A TERRORIST STATE IN IRAQ! AS AN UNITED STATES MARINE I RESENT EVERY THING YOU JUST POSTED! YOUR AN UNGREATFUL DISCRACE TO ALL OF US WHO SERVE! DO US A FAVOR! SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND QUIT AIDING OUR ENEMIES BECAUSE IN THE END YOU ARENT THE ONE WHO GETS TO SEE THEM FACE TO FACE!
NEWS FLASH MORON! YOU QUOTED A LINK FROM 2005!
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I need to shut my mouth? Brawn before brains, right? I have many friends in Iraq and between tours, and I know much more about the enemy than you think. I finished my days in the USN, had I been sent on another tour I would be in Iraq right now. You seriously need to think before you post. There's this thing called free speech, I could care less if you think I'm a disgrace to 'those who serve' because I've already done my time.
I quoted a link from 2005 because Saddam's army casualties ended around 2003 when they were destroyed.
Did I blame anyone for anyone else's actions? Think about that. No one gets the blunt end of a few power-bent marines who torture against orders. I present it, if you hate me for it then go on hating; that's a reason we have wars. We already know what happens on the other side.
Would you be willing to bet this could have been solved peacefully? I would. It can still be solved peacefully. Why can't people see this? THERE IS ALWAYS A PEACEFUL ALTERNATIVE MEANS. ALWAYS. We just need to think about it more. This argument between you and I would never have happened, if our government would have been wise enough to keep our military out of the situation.
Don't give me your typical pro-war bullsh!t and say I'm a disgrace when I stand up for my beliefs. I'm more grateful than you can imagine that I have the right to disagree with single minded servicemen led by political and high ranking war mongrels.
We didn't ever have a right to go there and you know it. You know you talk about chances to 'rip out spines' even though it's an exaggeration. You know marines like to fight, everyone knows this. That sort of dialogue doesn't work on me.
And yes, our next presidential candidate, McCain, has already said Iraq should be an indefinite militaristic asset ('100 years').