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Originally Posted by Link S.
1 The Lord blessed the Saints in Kirtland, Ohio, and they were happy. Elders who had left Kirtland to preach the gospel were successful, and many people joined the Church.
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They were so very happy that they ran him out of town.
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2 The Saints in Kirtland organized their own bank. However, the cashier was dishonest and stole a large amount of money from it, and there were other problems.
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Why did they "organize their own bank"? You didn't see Jesus organizing his own bank. None of the disciples organized their own bank. The Puritans didn't organize their own bank. The Amish. The Baptists. We all work within the system. Render unto Caesar? And why did one of the "Saints" steal money from the bank? Why didn't the towns people go after that guy? The lies just keep falling in on themselves.
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3 The depositors couldn’t get their money from the bank, and it had to be closed. Many Church members became angry and blamed Joseph Smith for the bank’s failure. His life was threatened by some who had been his friends, and several Church leaders even became enemies of the Church.
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I think they absolutely knew who to blame.
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4 Joseph was disheartened by the wickedness that prevailed, but friends and righteous leaders like Brigham Young defended him, declaring that Joseph was a prophet of God and that the Church was true.
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He was mad because he got caught. The state was going to shut him down, and he knew it. So why not make up some story to cover your own butt. It was plain to the towns people who had their money.
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5 The enemies of the Church then turned their anger on Brigham Young, who continued to defend Joseph, and Brigham had to flee Kirtland for his own safety.
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Run, because people get angry when you cheat them out of their hard work and pay.
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6 Evil men continued to cause trouble in Kirtland. Among other things, much to Joseph’s despair, they desecrated the temple so that it wasn’t a sacred place anymore.
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How is that possible? The Bible says that the Temple has moved from buildings made of brick and mortar to the very hearts of men. "YOU are the temple of the Holy Spirit." If he was ushering in the new age of spirituality, he sure took a few steps back.
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7 The wicked people in Kirtland would not repent, and they were determined to kill Joseph. He had to flee Kirtland during an extremely cold winter, and his enemies, armed with guns and knives, followed him.
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Because they knew who had the money.
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8 The Lord protected Joseph so that his pursuers could not find him. One night he even slept in the same house with them without their knowledge. Another time he passed his enemies on the street, and they looked at him but didn’t recognize him.
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Oh, and I suppose you were there to witness this... Oh, wait, no, it is Joseph
Smith telling us this, again, isn't it? Right.....
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9 Joseph traveled hundreds of miles to Far West, Missouri, to visit the Saints there. Most of them were happy to see the Prophet, but some of the Church leaders in Missouri were not obeying God’s commandments and wouldn’t repent.
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Why is it that when Joseph shows up, everywhere, there is opposition to him, that suddenly they are apostates? Why is that?
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10 Joseph was heartsick that friends such as Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and others who had been valiant had to be excommunicated from the Church.
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Didn't they sign the DOC or the POGP? If I found out that this whole thing was a crock of lies, I would be upset too.
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11 Other men were chosen to be leaders of the Church in Far West. One day Joseph visited a place near Far West called Spring Hill. However, its true name, Jesus told him, was Adam-ondi-Ahman. Anciently Jesus had blessed Adam and his family there, and someday Jesus, Adam, and other righteous people will meet there again.
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I think the day has been moved several times, now, hasn't it...
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Joseph smith was never involved in the seduction of a thirteen year old girl
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Oh, I don't know about that. Does the name The youngest was Helen Mar Kimball, daughter of LDS apostle Heber C. Kimball, she was 13, wasn't she? When Mr. Smith married her. Most of his wives were under the age of 18, were they not?
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This was probably due to their belief that the bank was Josephs fault (by the way if Joseph defrauded all the people at the bank what happened to the money?)
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He didn't even bother to pay them back. What a joke.
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He fought openly against the Lords church and would not listen to the two missionaries when he was asked to stop later his entire printing press was up in smoke as a mysterious fire burnt everything he had.
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Oh, so the "missionaries" is really code for "mercenaries" isn't it? Joseph took the money he was trusted with, hired a small army to keep order, and the Gov. of the State had to bring in troop to restore order. Isn't that a more accurate statement?
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Ask the owner of the print shop.
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I would, but he's dead. Oh, and according to the United States Constitution, destruction of private property to prevent the free exercise of the press is a crime of "biblical" proportions. That is not the way to silence critics. He violated the law.
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He died because he stood by his testimony that he had seen God and Jesus and they had restored the church that was set up by Jesus during his time on earth. He never defrauded anyone he never seduced anyone and he never remitted his testimony making him a martyr at his death.
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He didn't have a chance to remit anything. He was not protecting his family. He was protecting himself. He was in the process of leaving his brother behind as he was jumping out of the window.
I have read and re-read your comments, Link (of video gaming fame) and I can only conclude one thing:
LDS people are less interested in the facts, as they are in preserving their religion. Ixtellor was correct. Lets all bow down to the magical cucumber and it's prophet Joseph Smith.