Originally Posted by shadowman

There is no need for sarcasm, I am quite frankly disappointed in you, there is no need for rudeness. I know you probably get frustrated with me, as I you but this is still no excuse to be rude. You know very well I can read I have been debating this topic with you for quite a while now. Can you not grasp the fact that a baby is still not independant wether it needs it mother or not. To be independant means to be able to survive on your own without help a baby cannot do this.