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Old 03-14-2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Blade View Post
This is the worst one. If food, clothing, housing etc magically appeared out in the desert, it could reasonably be asserted that everyone has a right to their share. But that's not what happens - all these things are the result of the productive efforts of people. Saying you have a >>right<< to the fruits of other people's labor is socialist slavery.
Once again, the level of ignorance on these boards is nothing short of astounding. Why don't you try - just for once - pulling your head out of your own petty little world for a moment and actually try to understand what this declaration actually means.

For the most part throughout history, most people around the world have existed with some sort of "standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.". That is how human society actually developed - by developing a social grouping where these "rights" became inherent.

What this declaration is saying is, not that people have a right to have these things "given" to them, as you seem to think. But that people have a "right" to not have these things taken from them. For example, subsistence farming communities in Africa or South America have a "right" to be able to maintain their standard of living without having Western agribusiness companies taking their land which they use to provide their own food - to grow stock-feed so that Westerners can enjoy cheap takeaway hamburgers. Or Pacific Islanders who live on subsistence tuna farming have a "right" to maintain that way of life without US fishing trawlers fishing illegally in their waters.

To hear people like you, who have obviously had the great fortune of having been born into affluence pontificate about "socialist slavery" is truly pathetic. This petty nonsense you carry on with is ridiculous. Why don't you try to actually learn a little bit about things before you go spouting this rubbish?
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