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Old 03-15-2008, 07:15 AM
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shallow, there is nothing either in the blog nor the excerpt you gave that stated that in 20+ years there would be a hispanic majority in the united states. your argument is naked of anything but your vacuous assertion.
Yes, that number was pretty polemic from my side, about as polemic as your question was before. But the actual number is totally irrelevant here: In foreseeable future, former "third worlders" (let me remind you again: That's your colorful language) will form the majority in the States, there are no similar projections for Europe - all you've got is a study that says, that a lot of immigration is needed to keep up that current pay-as-you-go pension system, which is not going to be maintained anyway.

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so shallow, i would say "a man who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool". i could also argue that being hispanic doesn't make one an 'import' and to say so is racist.
Well dude, I dig your calender mottos. But it's surely weak to allege me of racism when I'm only answering the things you brought up. You started thinking in white-third worlder - schemes, not me. Where did I say anything about imports? The US in't "importing" Hispanics, nor is Europe "importing" anyone.

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puerto rico is populated by hispanics and puerto ricans are citizens (since 1917) of the united states.
Ahh, starting to distinguish now all the sudden? You sure didn't do that here:
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europe is composed of mainly narcissistic adults who spill their seed upon barren ground and then hire third worlders to do their dirty work
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you sourced a blog and that is ok, but let me source from infoplease who claim to use the united states census.
Check census for the birth rate numbers that I took from that blog, you'll find out that they are pretty much the same.
But quoting the cencus on the population development is kinda naive - they didn't even take into account all the illegal Hispanics that are already in the country and the ones that are coming in the next couple of years.

Pew Researce Center says it's going to be 29% in 2050 and 50% in 2097 (Caucasians: 4%).

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you only expose your inadequacies.
Wow, that was harsh!

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sorry shallow you are pointing at the wrong party. contact

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they deserve full credit for the statistics, i take credit for the colorful language. you can take credit for being wrong.
You only get the credit for interpretating your source all wrong. All it says it that immigration is needed to maintain the current pension system. Nothing more, nothing less.
America is actually the country that "hires third worlders" (gosh - remember, that's your demeaning language not mine) to maintain their population growth. They are pretty much facing the same circumstances that Europe is, just one step ahead in immigration terms. That's why your accusations in this case towards Europe are pointless from the very beginning.
I don't understand why you're opposing (legal) immigration anyway? Nobody is forced to live either in the US nor in Europe...
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