Oh same, better than Howard. Read 'High and Dry' too, its like a cross between 'The Weathmakers' and the 'Latham Diaries', only its an inside look at the liberals and why our response to global warming has been the sucks. I'll give you a quote from the book, its part of the liberal's election promises to the 1990 election: "The Liberal Party commits to reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 20 per cent by the year 2000". Then Howard comes in..../sigh.