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concheet · #33 (**permalink**) 03-16-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sickntiredofliblies

People of faith have always opposed scientific and medical advances. Condoms to prevent aids, vaccines to prevent disease, the roundness of this planet, prehistoric animals, etc... Even today, many christians oppose the HPV vaccination on the basis that it promotes sexual promiscuity; even though such a vaccine could prevent 6.2 million people from getting HPV. Christians are also trying to pervert our education system with their crazy notion that the earth is only 6,000 years old. Presidential candidates like Huckaby that publicly state that they don't believe evolution has happened. All religious people have been dragged, kicking and screaming, into a world in which we can actually explain things using mathematic equations and still to this day they are fighting for the old way.

People do not need an old rewritten book (the bible) to decide what is moral. Nevermind the fact that there are plenty of immoral views expressed by that deity and the followers of that book have never held the high ground when it comes to morality. Just to name a few recent examples of the slaughtering christians have committed; Ireland, Croatia, Kosovo, and many many more. Only education of science and the push for secularist governing has made christians change their divisive ways and adapt to a more tolerant way of practicing their faith.

The reason I asked the question of how many christians would support an atheist president in the US, is because most would not. Just like many muslims do not support non-muslim leaders. There are plenty of right wingers who have been spreading lies about Baraq Obama, claiming that he is a muslim. It has been proven that he is not. They spread these lies because they know that many, if not most, christians would not support a muslim president.

I don't think it is only people of faith or Christians who oppose medical and scientific advances. It is in general the masses who fear what they don't know or understand. You said: "All religious people have been dragged, kicking and screaming," into the modern age. That is certainly an overgeneralisation.

I don't know how many people would support an aetheist but I bet quite a few. At one time it was thought that Americans would not elect a Roman Catholic president but they elected John F Kennedy. It was thought we would not elect a divorced man, but then they elected Ronald Reagan. Most of us don't really care what a person's religion is - or isn't- as long as he is a man (or she is a person) of character and integrity and we agree with their general view of the world.

I do agree that most Christians would not vote for a Muslim for President, and I am one of those. I also agree that Obama does not consider himself a Muslim, although Muslims may consider him one due to the fact that he had a Muslim father and went for Muslim education as a youngster. This latest thing about his pastor is rather amazing however...

The reason I would not vote for a Muslim president is because I believe the Muslim religion puts religion over secularity. Politics is an integral part of Islam as is the eventual moving of everyone under Sharia law. This is happening little-by-little all over the world. I would not vote for a Muslim president, nor would I vote for anyone who will show weakness in the face of Islam, for that gives Islam(ists) an opportunity for exploitation and makes them stronger.