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Old 03-18-2008, 06:33 AM
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Here is a video I found of people in line voting:
No one is arguing that Iran does not hold elections. What we are arguing is that the elections are empty, since you cant vote for who you want if the Guardian Council does not like your candidate. They can override your decision.

That is not democracy.


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well, usually supreme leader doesn't take sides.
The point is that you, and the rest of the Iranian masses, have no control over that. You have to cross your fingers and HOPE that he and the Guardian Council allow your candidate to run. That is not democracy. HE has the power...not you.



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but I know they can't resist people's will
Legally, yes, they can. Legally, there is nothing you can do to stop them.

Unlike Saddam's Iraq, there is a slim chance that you could become a democracy peacefully. Iran is an oligarchy, but a very complex one, so it is possible that people sympathetic to democratic views could wiggle into positions of power and change things.

But it seems unlikely.



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this is a revolutionary country, people won't stand dictatorship.
You do not live in a dictatorship. A dictatorship requires a dictator. You live in a theocratic oligarchy.

If your country was a true democracy, revolution would not be required to change it.



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our system may not be complete democracy
It isn't a democracy at all, by definition.

There is no such thing as "Western" democracy...either a nation is a democracy or it is not. There is no in between. And the specific execution of the democracy is irrelevant...all that matters is that political power rests with the masses. Thats it.



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although I think that free democracy without any filters could lead us to elect the most propagandist candidate instead of the best one.
Who should get to decide if a candidate is propagandist or the "best" one? You and the rest of the common people, or a bunch of unelected people in a dark room?
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