Originally Posted by lizardfish

Did not take wrong way. Liked what you had to say.... but I doubt I will ever be able to define what God is, and follow even Christianity in the broadest sense.

I want to be good, and love others and care for the planet, just because I was brought up to know what is kind and what is not. If that gets me to heaven, fine. If it doesn't, then I still lived a life of kindness and I'll know I tried my best and others benefitted from me.

I don't like the accept Jesus as your saviour stuff or go to hell*. I don't like curch (of any kind) and I don't like the Bible, and don't regard it as any kind of guide for my life and probably never will. I don't belive that if there is a God like the Bible says, that he made us in order to glorify himself and wants to be worshiped, while all around there is suffering and pain.

If some "God" made the earth and created us intentionally, I believe this god wants us to appreciatte life through our personal thoughts and our actions torwards others. But I doubt he expects us to have faith in one kind of religion to get into the pearly gates.

But I don't know if there is a God like that if there is one at all. If there isn't, it certainly doesn't stop me being spirtual with myself.

I don't know what to believe and I don't think I should know and I am not ashamed of that.

I am really happy though and good things happen to me. People who are "saved" seem to think that their lives are suddenly enriched compared to others, and that those who are not saved are "lost" and missing something in their lives.

It feels great to throw my hands up and say "I don't know, and I don't think that is a bad thing at all". I feel fine with that.

But, the church serves many very well and I do not dispute that.

L.