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Do you even read other people's posts? I said "No, it's not just about the U.S."
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But then you followed with....or anybody who backs the U.S. You STILL blame the U.S.
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Isn't France a member of NATO? Whoops...
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Oh, so now you're moving the goalsposts. So now you're adding the U.S.; anybody who supports the U.S. or any organization which includes the U.S., huh? So, we're back to square one: you blame the U.S.
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I'm not blaming America. I wish you'd stop lying. I blame U.S. foreign policy and the U.S. government for funding tyrants like Saddam and criminals like Bin Laden. Do you deny that the U.S. government funded both of them?
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Yes, I do. We did NOT fund bin Laden. We funded Afghanistan against the Soviet Union...way back in the 80's before al Qaeda was even formally formed. The fact that he might have benefitted from that in some way, was not something we could have forseen. Had we been able to do so---I doubt very seriously that Democrat Congressman Charlie Wilson would have funded the shoulder-fired missiles and taught them how to bring down Soviet helicopters.
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Yes. The Neocons have hyped it. The situation wouldn't exist if the U.S. would declare neutrality and stay out of the affairs of other countries.
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Okay. Let's see what would happen then. I recall very clearly the Dems/liberals and the rest of the world severely condemned Pres. Bush for not getting involved in the Middle East right away when he took office. So, are you saying you were different.....that you supported his actions?
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I think terrorism is real - but it is happening for specific reasons. The U.S. is causing much of it. And the way to deal with terrorists is not to invade nation states and waste American lives and trillions of dollars. We should develop a truly international police force, separate from the U.N. to deal with terrorist/criminal types.
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And guess who would be expected to furnish the largest amounts of troops? That would be the U.S. So, we'd still be involved. You simply want some international group to direct our military instead of the Pres. of the U.S.
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So we are still under threat of another terrorist attack after all Bush has allegedly "done." When does this end? Because you're not going to wipe out every Muslim. When does it end JP5? Is this an eternal war? If so, you need to go enlist and go over there and fight for what you believe in.
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So, we do what? We sit back and do nothing and wait for the next attack? We go back off the offensive like before 9/11? We KNOW their intentions; they've made it very clear. The formally declared war on us in about 1995 and we paid no attention. One of the final conclusions in the 9/11 Commission was that "they were at war with us; but we weren't at war with them." And also that "we failed to connect the dots." We cannot sit back, not be involved and accomplish either of those previous failures.