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Originally Posted by Skeptikos Examiner
The Ottomans were a colonial power, they did not own the land, they simply conquered it and oppressed the native Palestinians!
After the downfall of the Ottoman Empire Palestine went under British rule because the Arabs were tricked, they were promised independence for fighting the Turks in ww1 but the treacherous British did not stand to their word. And after ww2 the British gave Palestine, a land which never belonged to them in the first place, to the Jews in return for getting the US into the war (Balfour Declaration)
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Wrong, and Wronger yet.
The Jews had been promised a Larger State by the British and League of Nations (UN predecessor).. but because of the 'Lawrence of Arabia Legacy' Arabs ended up with more that there fair share of the mandate and Ottoman Empire
Probably now ruling 105+% of their 'range'.. places like Kurdistan denied rule and given to a Saudi Prince as part of 'Iraq'
The Ottomans Did own the land I indicated (about 2/3 of future 'Israel').
It was owned, AS I SAID, by No Arab.
It was clled
miri Belonging to the Emir for the 400 years of Ottoman rule and most of it virtually Uninhabitable- The Negev desert- perhaps a very sparse bedouins who still live there.
Sparse as was All of Palestine which now contains 20x the residente it did 150 years ago.
'Palestine' was a mere Political Map designation since the Romans Conquered ISRAEL (Judea and Samaria) and REnamed it 'Palestina'.
Since that time and until the REformation of Israel- there has never been a self-Governing 'palestine'.
The Jews never completely left Israel either- living continuously there for 3300 years- in small number after the Roman conquest and until the beginning of the 19th C.. when.. by 1840 Jews were the Largest Consituent in places like Jerusalem.
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Fact is that Palestine is a land with a long history inhabitated by Arabs since at least 700 years!
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Wrong Again!
LOL
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Big SNIP
"..Greeks fled the Muslim rule in Greece, and landed in Palestine. By the mid-17th century, the Greeks lived everywhere in the Holy Land--constituting about 20% of the population-and their authority dominated the villages.3Between 1750 and 1766 Jaffa had been rebuilt, and had some five hundred houses. Turks, Arabs, Greeks and Armenians and a solitary Latin monk lived there, to attend to the wants of the thousands of pilgrims who had to be temporarily housed in the port before proceeding to Jerusalem.4 "In some cases villages [in Palestine] are populated wholly by settlers from OTHER portions of the Turkish Empire within the 19th century.
There are villages of Bosnians, Druzes, Circassians and Egyptians," one historian has reported. 5 Another source, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1911 edition (before the "more chauvinist Arab history" began to prevail with the encouragement of the British), finds the "population" of Palestine composed of so "widely differing" a group of "inhabitants" -- whose "ethnological affinities" create "early in the 20th century a list of no less than fifty languages" (see below) -- that "it is therefore no easy task to write concisely ... on the ethnology of Palestine." In addition to the "Assyrian, Persian and Roman" elements of ancient times, "the short-lived Egyptian government introduced into the population an element from that country which still persists in the villages."
. . . There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece and Italy . . . Turkoman settlements ... a number of Persians and a fairly large Afghan colony . . . Motawila ... long settled immigrants from Persia ... tribes of Kurds ... German "Templar" colonies ... a Bosnian colony ... and the Circassian settlements placed in certain centres ... by the Turkish government in order to keep a restraint on the Bedouin ... a large Algerian element in the population ... still maintain(s) [while] the Sudanese have been reduced in numbers since the beginning of the 20th century.
In the late eighteenth century, 3,000 Albanians recruited by Russians were settled in Acre. The Encyclopaedia Britannica finds "most interesting all the non-Arab communities in the country . . . the Samaritan sect in Nablus (Shechem); a gradually disappearing body" once "settled by the Assyrians to occupy the land left waste by the captivity of the Kingdom of Israel."6
The disparate peoples recently assumed and purported to be "settled Arab indigenes, for a Thousand years" were in fact a "heterogeneous" community 7
With No "Palestinian" identity, and according to an official British historical analysis in 1920, No Arab identity either:
"The people west of the Jordan are not Arabs, but only Arabic-speaking. The bulk of the population are fellahin.... In the Gaza district they are mostly of Egyptian origin; elsewhere they are of the most Mixed race." 8
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/mixed.html
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Ooof
and yet more coming about the 'white' 'unrelated' Ashkenazim