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Old 03-26-2008, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by raytri View Post
Fair enough, but the Barrett (for example) *does* have an effective range of 1500 meters, and can penetrate brick, body armor and bulletproof glass. I'm not saying that means it should be banned -- especially given its drawbacks, like weight, size and price -- but it is certainly a powerful weapon in a class by itself. If we agree that machineguns and grenade launchers can be heavily regulated, one can at least make the argument that .50-caliber sniper rifles deserve some scrutiny.
I could see that, if the .50 were something special. It is not. There are a lot of weapons out there that can defeat Level IV body armor. The SASR (Special Application Scoped Rifle) is not a sniper rifle, and can not be classified as one because it does not and can not hold less than one MOA, While you can hit large targets out to 1800 meters, your pattern is 45 inches across because it only holds a 2.5 MOA group (that is why they call it an area target). Firing standard ball it fails to penetrate 1 inch mild steel 8 times out of 10 at 70 meters, and generally will not punch through Level V ballistic glass inside of 50 m (that ballistics glass you saw it shoot through on the MythBusters was Level III glass). Can you get HEAIP (MK 211 MOD0) rounds for it? Yes, but it is subject to BATF class III restrictions just like 40mm grenades are. Same with its AP and API cousins. It is not the magical weapon everyone makes it out to be.

Also it is in the same class of weapons as all the long range big bore weapons. And like all of those weapons smaller than 20mm, it is classified as small arms.

But yeah, arguments have been made against it. If we would stop concentrating on taking guns out of the hands of honest people, and started focusing on making the laws that we already have work. The laws that keep them out of the hands of the bad guys then we would not have to worry about all this stupid stuff.

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I'm 20 pounds overweight and have no interest in devoting months and years learning martial arts.

Much easier just to use a handgun for personal defense.
Even if you are a martial arts expert, your hands do nothing to win a fight when the bad guy is armed and he stands 10 feet away from you.

Dogs are not the best either. They are ok, but not as your primary means of defense.
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