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Originally Posted by Truth-Bringer
Can you scientifically prove that? Sounds like it's just an opinion...
Thomas Jefferson repealed all internal taxation and ran the government solely from trade tariffs. We still had police and military, and the country functioned just fine. I say the only way to prove this is to do an experiment, and let's just see what can or cannot be done without taxation. We can start small, with towns, then, if it's successful, we move to a city, a state, a larger state, then a region, and finally, the whole country. It can take place over several years for a smooth transition.
It's spelled "cynical" - and politicians do crave power and prestige. I find it hard to believe anyone would argue that. Again, if politicians/government solve problems, then what need is there for politicians/government? They don't want to put themselves out of work. They have an incentive to expand their authority, and claiming that they're helping the poor is a great vehicle for that, as it plays on people's sympathy.
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Tariffs are a form of taxes, the increased cost of a product for the producer increases the price for the consumer, the tax is just hidden. I was just saying that in one form or another money needs to be taken from citizens for a country to function. That is why it does not make sense to say that taking money from private citizens is morally wrong, in the general concept, because all governments have had a form of taxes. If you can give me an example of a country with no taxes of any kind, than I would like to see it, because that would be amazing.
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Why were you saying that politicians always try to get more power. I wasn't denying that at all. I was saying that the concept of welfare exists because many people would agree that it is needed to help the poor.
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Are you saying that you think FDR didn't care about the poor but he just passed the new deal to get political points? He obviously tried to get re-ellected but his aim was to do what he felt was right and he knew that he would get rewarded for it.
Just because their is a political reward to helping the poor it does not make sense to assume that the only reason welfare exists is to get that single reward when others may exist.