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Originally Posted by johnnyC";p="
as for the claim that socialism promotes tolerance while national socialism promotes intolerance, it just seems a little, well, wrong. from what i've seen, they both promote intolerance. while hitler and his crew promoted hatred of jews and many christians, marx and his friends also promoted hatred of all religions. wasn't it marx who wrote that one article "a world without jews"?
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Socialism (a la Marx) was supposed to be entirely secular, believing that all religions should be abolished. This 'hatred' of Jews that Marx supposedly had, is a rather unconvincing argument, it's not very well proven. I don't remember Marx promoting hatred of religions, more denouncing them. At least it never advocated eugenics, and ethnic cleansing. There was no racial superiority argument by Marx.
Nazism promoted 'Aryan' (which is an artificial term in itself) superiority, and the the purification of the German people. This meant the elimination of all undesirables, in a highly systematic manner. Religion was never suppressed, and the church remainned operational throughout Nazi Germany, there were even Nazi Priests.
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Originally Posted by johnnyC";p="
in it, if i read correctly, he seems to blame the religious as one of the many roots of the people's problems and says that all religion needs to be abolished. doesn't this smack of how hitler blamed the jews for the germans' problems?
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The manner at which both responded to the 'question' was quite drastic. Marx proposed a secular state. Hilter proposed the
endlösung.
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Originally Posted by johnnyC";p="
the more i compare the two, the more similar they seem. perhaps communism and national socialism did truly hate each other. but if they did, was it really because they were opposites, or was it because they were both fighting for the same spot?
-j
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Then you'll have trouble proving why other Fascists governments, and parties, not of all who had territorial disputes/demands with the USSR, hated the "judeo-bolshevik monster".
Nazism does not match Socialism as a political system.
Nazism does not match Socialism as an economic system.
So to speak, where's the beef?