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Originally Posted by kitty
And, I would point out that those ideals do not come from the government. Rather, the government is empowered to protect those ideals. Furthermore, those ideals (such as trial by a jury of one's peers), etc., predate Christian thought. Thus, the concept of human rights was itself created by HUMANS..
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Ahh… Humans… AKA: The people? Yet another irony… in that ‘The Human People’ just hung you and your atheists people out to dry… “The People” want you along with your ideas... DEAD! So it seems that the ideas, vis a vis 'Human Rights' that come from ‘The People’ are subject to change without notice…
Not much meaning to be discerned from rights that change whenever a majority decides they're no longer
convenient. I mean one minute you're an Atheist pounding sand clambering on about your right to not beleive in God and the next minute you've no right to live at ALL!
It just seems so fluid, like a foundation of shifting sand or somethin'... I guess I'm just a bedrock kinda guy. Tell me where the value in constantly changing 'rights' might be found? I frankly don't see it...
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Originally Posted by kitty
Thus, if the government dissolved, the ideals would remain. We would be responsible to appoint a new government to enforce those ideals, if those ideals were a true reflection of the consensus of American thought, at that time.
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Dissolve the Government? LOL… The Government has never been more popular, it’s never enjoyed more strength; the problem I see is that ‘The People’ and their Government are hunting you down and killing you where ever you’re found. As I recall, you and the atheist left spent most of your time prior to the Scenario disregarding the source and the principles on which those ideas rest.
I mean YOU WON! You realized success! You rinsed the most powerful human force on earth, in the HISTORY of earth of those ideas… you’ve managed to strip the nation of a sense of religious principle… you’ve FINALLY separated Church and the passé ideas of religious zealotry from State.
The only problem is that the State which you shaped wants you dead. Now all of a sudden you’re forced to re-establish a Government based upon ideas you’ve long sought to discredit, while running for your life, from a citizenry who is legally obligated to destroy you…
LOL... Man, that is irony of the SWEET variety, right there…
I mean, after all, as I SEE IT....
it could NOT have been a good idea to strip the most powerful force in the history of humanity of any accountability beyond that which is found on this earth; given that the force in question IS the most powerful on earth… that would necessarily mean that they’re not accountable to anyone but themselves and sis…
there is NOTHING good that can come from THAT.
Yet that was the goal... Weird huh... Yet ANOTHER
'unintended consequence...' yet to be realized by those good intenders on the left.