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"America has one of the worst human rights records of an existing nation": False. Before you post fiction like this, we'd at least like to see a source where you dream up this crap. You might also spend some time in some 3rd world nations where the justice systems are completely corrupt before you spout out again.
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A few of things that might interest you.
http://www.hrw.org/worldreport99/usa/index.html
http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRights/Abuses/USA.asp
http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/united_s.htm
In addition to those articles, there are the well known historical ones:
1776-1863: America is one of the largest parts of the international slave trade.
1776-1920's: Women do not have civil rights, or suffrage.
1776-1960's: African Americans do not have civil rights, or equal protection under the law. The effects in the African American community are still being felt today.
1830's-1900: the U.S.A. removes thousands of Native Americans from land they have inhabited for thousands of years, proceeded to break numerous treaties and place many Native Americans on reservations in the middle of the desert.
1913-1921: Woodrow Wilson sends American troops into foreign countries a total of 12 times, with almost no justification.
1941-1945: Japanese Americans are placed in internment camps; two Atomic bombs are dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing between 150-200,000 innocent civilians, as well as 12 Americans in prison there.
1960's-70's: American soldiers kill and rape innocent Vietnamese civillians.
2003 - American soldiers in Abu Ghraib prison force Iraqi prisoners, most being held without trial, to humiliate themselves, interrogate them with methods often equated with torture, and allow one man to be attacked by a dog as an "example".
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"America is the only nation to even drop a bomb, unnecessarily according to Eisenhower." Funny you use Eisenhower here, as he later adamantly defended the right of the U.S. to test and expand its nuclear program, albeit for defensive reasons. And most agree that America would've taken heavy casualties if we had tried to take Japan by land.
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“... I told him I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.” - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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"America has over, what is it, 2000 more nukes than anyone else?" Who knows, but its in the best interests of the US that others do not know.
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I'm pretty sure everyone knows America has more nuclear missiles, although we have turned down requests to have them inspected.
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Is the point of your post that every nation should have the right to obtain nuclear weapons and that the US should not try to stop/slow the proliferation of nukes?
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Partially. I'm saying the U.S. doesn't have the right to pick and choose which countries are allowed to have nuclear weapons programs, and if George Bush really doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons, maybe he should lower our threat to them by destroying some of our weapons. Leading by example, not force, is the way to get things done. [/url]