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Originally Posted by Publius Infinitum
Oh my, a rather pathetic appeal to authority... Ya know Jeff, I was just thinking, IF I were the purest essence of evil and I were trying to sway others to my evil ways... I'd do it precisely as you're doing it here...
Its quite stunning, really. Tell me, do you see yourself as being truly evil or has this thoroughly escaped you?
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I like how you completely dodged the point and proceeded to call me evil. You dont know god, and neither do I. As such, you are just as likely to be preaching on behalf of "evil" as I, since evil, to you, is whatever god says is evil.
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The point Jeff is that the only valid purpose of Government is to protect the God given rights of the collective sport... not to strip him of those rights as is the case where leftist find power. For instance Jeff, you may have heard that some people now have the right to the product of the labor of others; this established by federal decree... When Jeff in reality, there is no principle wherein anyone has the right to the product of another, except where the other has expressly and specifically given their consent.
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Certain rights must be stripped for government to have any power at all. If the government views the econimic system itself as bias and unfair to a certain class, they have every right to enforce a more fair system, correcting the deficiancies of the economic system. You assume our economic system is the beacon of fairness with regard to the compensation of labor, and that is where you are wrong.
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Tell me Jeff, do you know of a principle where upon one individual has the right to the product of another man's labor without his specifically expressed consent?
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Where the product of labor was dispoportionatly/unfairly awarded, where one class of people had an unfair advantage by the nature of the economic system.
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Well... of course you do not... yet you will likely advocate for the Universal Healthfare so common among the dimmer bulbs.
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you're good at jumping to conclusions.
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Ahh, so you're rejecting God because he's an infringement on your liberty, but you're perfectly fine with a pack of human imbeciles having control over you...? ROFLMNAO... Jeff that was a given when you initially implied your atheism... It's who you people ARE! That's the whole foundation of your absurd ideology. When in fact, where God is concerned, you've absolutely no choice... God has GIVEN YOU LIFE... He's GIVEN YOU FREE WILL... You're free to do with that life whatever you will. And upon that great gettin' up morning you'll be held accountable and based upon the info I'm working on... you'll spend forever being tormented in agony.
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At least so you think, for no particular reason than a self serving, baseless bias for your opinions on the nature of god over mine.
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Now I expect that somewhere along the line in forever... I expect you'll figure it out... my guess is the instant you stand up for judgment.
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Somehow I think it will be you who has no concern for others, only your own individual rights and ability to live your life as you choose, who will have more to be afraid of than I. What exactly is god judging us on? Our ability to look after our own selves? Even a dog knows how to do that. The question is if you can look after others.
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Now as to whether God represents a limit to my liberty, yeah... I expect he does and one I joyfully accept. He is my creator and considering that without him I wouldn't even be hear, I figure I owe him nothing less. It's a great deal as far as I'm concerned. It's people having power over me I reject.
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So if god created you just so he could tourcher you, you would say, well, that's okay because god is the final authority on morality. It must be okay. You are only following god because you beleive it serves you to do so.
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Says who? YOU? (LOL... Don't ya love the other edge?)
Jeff no one gives a darn what you say... no one is going to run to the sound of your voice... "FOLLOW ME FRIENDS! IN MY OPINION THERE'S A SOCIAL CONTRACT AND IF YOU RISK THE ONLY LIFE YOU HAVE, WE CAN DESTROY THIS GOVERMENT WHICH FAILED BECAUSE OF POLICIES INHERENT TO THE SAME SOCIAL CONTRACT (WHICH I SUPPORTED BY THE WAY) AND WE CAN BUILD ANOTHER GOVERNMENT! BUT A BETTER THIS TIME! WE'LL DOUBLE TAXES AND THAT WAY WE WON'T RUN OUT OF MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE YOUR LAZY, GOVERNMENT TIT SUCKLING, ADLE-MINDED @$$&$!
Bad News sport... There is no such thing as a social contract... that is a farce of the lowest order; it is nonsense snatched directly from the leftist ether. You have one right, the right to life and that's it.
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There's as much merit to social contract theory as there is to your personal inturpretation of god's will, god's rights, god's and god's nature. So who are you expecting to run under you? Obviously the blind unable to think for themselves, instead needing to appeal to a god they know nothing about and attribute their rights to him.