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Originally Posted by Perham
obviously, science couldn't find the roots of consciousness. all they do is reverse engineering the brain, and all they can say is that it's functioning materialistically. so still we don't know who WE are. I agree with Herk that the existence itself is an undeniable proof for God.
P.S. did you know what was happening before the big bang?
God was making hell for those who ask such questions! 
the science has hard limits. it only finds materialistic info because the scientists only seek them. maybe they should start seeking something else. |
You are correct. As I personally have said a few times on this forum, science has limited purpose and power. Consciousness cannot be observed, and therefore inherently cannot be modeled by science. Similarly, if there is nothing observable to indicate what occurred before "the big bang", science will never model that either.
I do not understand, though, how your own existence is proof of God. You are saying: If I exist, then God exists. To me this seems to be the fundamental assumption made by theists in which lies the flaw of theism. It seems like a rather arbitrary assumption. Explain to me how you derive the existence of God from the existence of oneself, please. If you can show me this, I'll definitely become a theist.
Also, "scientist" is an abstract word... a word meant to refer to people who use science. It does
not mean that they use
only science in their approach to the world. Logic, philosophy, humanity, love, intrigue, etc all play a role as well. Science is merely their approach to determining facts and making predictions
about the world itself. Many scientists are philosophers who ponder questions such as the existence of God, the nature of consciousness, or the beginning of the universe. They simply do not look to science for answers to these questions, because that is beyond its scope.