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Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine
If they aren't fighting the mainstream violent nature of islam (which none of them are doing adequately), then they are part of the problem. Lots of nazis didn't ever fight, but that doesn't mean they didn't support naziism in other ways.
You admit most of the truth, that muslims are uneducated, religious fanatics whose ideology is based on that of a raping, thieving, murdering conquerer they even now consider "perfect." The rest is just wishful thinking, the way you wish islam was or hope it will be someday if you kiss their butts enough.
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Tell me then, who fought the backward ideology that was around in the Middle Ages for Christianity?
NOBODY. It was an evolution over time. People realized that they weren't going to get what they wanted in life by going to religion every time, and started to be more secular and work together to get what they wanted.
The idea that peaceful and good Muslims should be out there fighting the violent sides of their religion is silly. You put it on them, when it is in fact our own greed for cheap gasoline that keeps them where they are. As soon as gasoline is a non-issue, and we have no desire for anything in the Middle East, you will see people rise up and democratize themselves, even in small parts. It won't be an overnight success -- I imagine that the beginnings will be very religious, and over time transform into a reasonable democracy.
As far as their "perfect" leader -- Muslims who are peaceful have a different vision of Muhammad than you do. So again, you're painting them all with a broad brush in order to purport them bad as a whole, the entire religion being 'evil'. But frankly, you do a poor job at it because you can't back up anything without taking a few quotes and throwing them around like they are the entire story, when lots of Muslims worldwide would not ever do anything in that manner.
Your method has been tried, and it has failed, time and time again -- not just for Islam, but for Christianity, for Judiasm. But it's entertaining you are taking to the same exact
method that Hitler used to start painting Jews with a broad brush -- just before he started murdering millions of them. Your views are that of the same, a sad and bigoted point of view on a religion you have little comprehension beyond a few websites and quotes, and little experience with the people as a whole.
I don't think Islam is a "peaceful" religion in the same way I don't think Christianity is, or Judaism. It's in the view of the person practicing to make it peaceful or not. Religion is meant to be interpreted for an individual's power over another person through the supernatural or "imaginary friends." All religions are guilty of this. Just because Muslims in the world happen to be less educated, and thus easier to pray on for that -- doesn't make the religion as a whole inherently bad, because with the right interpretation, it can be very peaceful too. It's all about perspective.