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Originally Posted by votetheoneyouhatetheleast
True to an extent.
Technically nothing can be proved 100% but that's not the point. (for one thing people interpret info and people are imperfect, what we know now we might not know later)
The point maybe I'm getting at is that you're probably right, but as someone rational (perhaps more so than most) you have to take into account that you are trying to change peoples opinions. There's no other logical reason to make this thread. To change peoples opinions you have to "play ball". If you tell people "your religion is bulls**t" they wont listen. you have to sympathize with them and win their trust. If they trust you they'll trust your opinion. If you try to crush what they hold dearest to them, they will reject you outright. And actively resist you on principal.
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The reason I made this thread was the same reason anyone here makes a thread. It was to have a discussion on the subject. If anyone's view is affected or someone learns something they didn't know, that's a bonus.
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Don't know about you, but my opinion on religion was formed over my entire life, not someone saying "you're wrong" and me saying "yeah, now you mention it you're right"
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I was officially a Christian as a child. By the time I was able to think independently at around age 13 I became an atheist.
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As people who think independently and don't just go with what other people say is right or wrong, if we want other people to understand, we have to rise above the same kind of rhetoric. We wont archive understanding if we directly resist a life time of conditioning and a strong desire/need to believe, instead of trying to understand and make it easy for their transition, and offer an attractive alternative.
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I have no doubt you are right. I just don't have the patience to cuddle people through the detox process. I wish I did.