Originally Posted by Rotaerk

Who cares about the second side? (The second side being, in case you forgot, "If something produces no unintelligent beings, then it is not an unintelligent process.") I know that your model holds the first side ("if a process is unintelligent, it only produces unintelligent beings") to be true. The argument was over whether that's actually the case. It was *not* over whether the transposition is true. The transposition only even came up because you fallaciously used it to deduct that the original statement was true. The transposition is not the point of interest. We weren't discussing "If your belief is true, then the transpose is true", because that is obviously the case.

I swear, talking to some people on here is like herding cats... There is no debate, only a sequence of vague tangents with the tone of argument.