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Originally Posted by Herkdriver
There is no point to debate if there is no point to thought, reason or logic.
You are pre-supposing a "value" to logic and reason that exists ONLY in your mind good sir.
I am pre-supposing a "value" to God and religion that exists ONLY in my mind good sir.
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I would assume there would be value in the use of logic and reason even if there is a god... after all, it came from him and we are made in his image. Why would he give us reason if he didnt want us to question things rationally?
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We're both equally flawed.
Flip a coin. Tails you win, you die, nothing happens, your brain dies and the only reality you know dies right along with it.
Heads I win, I die, I had faith in a God, and I hope I am judged as a decent person and then I enter another form of conciousness independent of my brain.
That's how it is.
We're here, we had no choice in the matter. We weren't born as insects or birds, we ARE human beings.
We have a heart, a liver and a brain. These will not last forever.
So now what do we do with this thing called existence.
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I propose we use as much of this time as possable to try to figure things out and not just accept that there is or is not a god. I think that's what a rational god would want from us. EXPLORE! Why else would he put us here?