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Old 04-18-2008, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotaerk View Post
You treat logic as though it is some kind of mainstream lifestyle, while there are alternatives or something... Logic is the means by which you derive truths from other truths, nothing more. Courage is certainly not even related to logic, nor to this conversation. I'm arguing with you, not trying to amp you up for a battle. In argument, logic is the relevant tool, not cheering and comforting.
Logic is inference.

That's all it is.

I see an apple fall from the tree, therefore I infer a force is acting upon it.

I'll give it a name.

Gravity

I'll define through mathematics

F= G (m1 m2/r2)

I see X, I define through language and mathematics and infer Z

That's all you have.

Inference is not Truth.

You are no closer to the Truth than the Man on the Moon my friend.

I admire that you seek the truth through inference
i.e.

Occam's Razor

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity

but that is not Omnicompetence

On a quantum level, classical physics break down...within the density of blackholes, classical physics breaks down.

Logical inference falls apart, and it's back to the drawing board.

Admirable, but you don't seem to grasp the Epistemological limitations to human based knowledge and obviously you never will.

Last edited by Herkdriver; 04-18-2008 at 02:05 PM.
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