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Originally Posted by Rotaerk
You treat logic as though it is some kind of mainstream lifestyle, while there are alternatives or something... Logic is the means by which you derive truths from other truths, nothing more. Courage is certainly not even related to logic, nor to this conversation. I'm arguing with you, not trying to amp you up for a battle. In argument, logic is the relevant tool, not cheering and comforting.
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I have concious thought.
I can observe the Universe.
I know that through inference
Conservation of Mass ~ matter cannot be created or destroyed
I know that through inference
2nd law of Thermodynamics
The total entropy of any isolated thermodynamic system tends to increase over time, approaching a maximum value
Therefore if matter and energy always existed than through entropy the energy within the Universe would have dissipated.
It has not.
The only logical inference I can make now is that indeed, out of nothing, the Universe, at least as I observe it, just showed up one "day" in a ball the size of a grapefruit and then expanded rapidly in a moment we define in human terms as the beginning of time.
Logical inference leads to a lot of illogical conclusions.
because guess what, logical inference implies that adding a "God" to all of this really only just complicates matters unnecessarily.