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Old 04-19-2008, 03:52 PM
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I'm not arguing against someone’s right to choose, I'm arguing against the word "treatment" which implies it is a problem to ones ability to survive or function in society.
I understand your objection now in that regard, but in my view treatment is the right word. I understand it upsets you, but I view being gay as a disorder, given this and supporting evidence, something can be "fixed" so that they can have their own offspring if they want and raise children in an ideal, two parent home if they want. However, I view accepting treatment as optional, as I would for a mental disorder, or anything else similar. I am against State enforcement of most anything. I am a libertarian.

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So if eye color, hair color and skin color is not important to what it means to be a person, why does male or female play such a significant role? After all, this is also just a genetic difference yet people, including yourself, are very hung up about letting go of the male/female distinction when it comes to rights and marriage.
Marriage is a religious institution built upon the goal of raising children in an optimal fashion. Raising children is of no comparison to minor matters of appearance.

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There is no reason for a religious institution to be encoded into law and given special rights. This is discriminatory. And I'm not asking anyone to change the religious institution of marriage, I'm asking them to change the legal institution. I will accept a civil union if the law pegs the rights between the two as being equal. Until then, you risk separate but equal.
Agreed. The State should never have gotten in to the business of regulating marriage. But, it did. It began interfering with the religious institution and now, if you support enforcing a redefinition of marriage, then you want to interfere more at the same time you say the government shouldn't be messing with religion.

Whats wrong with separate but equal? I agree with you. Gay unions or whatever gays want them called should have equal rights and benefits under the law. Homosexuals insisting on changing the definition of marriage is just like if homosexuals insisted on being called heterosexual. Homosexuals should make their own name up for their partnerships and do their own thing with it, form their own traditions, if they don't want to receive treatment and become normal, live a normal life and have the ideal situation to raise children within.
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