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Old 04-20-2008, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffLV View Post
I deny two main claims:

power = the ability to give "rights". At best, power = the ability to control, but this is not what it means to have "rights" as they are usually understood.
who dictates rights? the one who has control.


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God, if he subscribes to anything, subscribes to reason. This makes Reason the ultimate power and authority, God merely serves to implement reason.[quote]thats not necessarily true. most religions dont follow reason, but belief. it your statement were true, the religion would have to change every time an idea changes.

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A god without reason is not a god we have any reason to follow, as he would be unpredictable and his "laws" baseless. At this point, we have no reason to believe anything he says for even if we do follow, we have no idea what he will do to us following that. God, if anything, must subscribe to reason and reason is the final authority.
i partially agree. but like i said, god doesnt have to exist for the power to be there.
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