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SEE: I told ya!! IGNORE it is your whole thing.


Ignore what? I don't know what you are trying to say. You keep screaming about Clinton, and boogeymen, and liberals, and every other thing.

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Hey---these are FACTS. It can be found in a lot of different places---if you really cared to look. And it doesn't matter which Blog has a good account of it.

Perhaps you'd believe PBS. Probably not.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ll/demise.html
Umm, this was a Republican controlled congress that did this. From your link.

In May 1998, the House passes legislation by a vote of 214 to 213 that allows for the merging of banks, securities firms, and insurance companies into huge financial conglomerates. And in September, the Senate Banking Committee votes 16-2 to approve a compromise bank overhaul bill. Despite this new momentum, Congress is yet again unable to pass final legislation before the end of its session.
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ok, jp ... point out the section where clinton insisted on banks issuing loans to those who are not creditworthy
all i see is addressing credit access to the underserved
MORE....as reported in the LIBERAL New York Times on Nov 4th, 1999:

The deal-maker, as reported in the New York Times, Nov. 4, 1999:


“The breakthrough in today’s legislation came in a backroom meeting at the Capitol soon after midnight, when a group of moderate Senate Democrats - led by Christopher Dodd of Connecticut and Charles E. Schumer of New York - forced a compromise between Mr. Gramm and the White House over the legislation’s effect on the Community Reinvestment Act, a 1977 anti-discrimination law intended to encourage lending to minorities and others historically denied access to credit.

“Mr. Dodd, whose state is home to the nation’s largest insurance companies, and Mr. Schumer, with strong ties to Wall Street, have long sought legislation to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act."
http://blogs.phillyburbs.com/news/bc...s-deregulated/

So, what did the Community Reinvestment Act require???

"The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act, a once-obscure and lightly enforced banking regulation law, into one of the most powerful mandates shaping American cities—and, as Senate Banking Committee chairman Phil Gramm memorably put it, a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks. Under its provisions, U.S. banks have committed nearly $1 trillion for inner-city and low-income mortgages and real estate development projects, most of it funneled through a nationwide network of left-wing community groups, intent, in some cases, on teaching their low-income clients that the financial system is their enemy and, implicitly, that government, rather than their own striving, is the key to their well-being." from CJ winter of 2000

"....the giant, government-chartered Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have helped create huge pools of credit by purchasing mortgage loans and packaging large numbers of them together into securities for sale to bond buyers. With such intense competition for profits and so much money available to lend, it's hard to imagine that banks couldn't instantly figure out how to market to minorities or would resist such efforts for fear of inspiring imitators. Nor has the race discrimination argument for CRA held up. A September 1999 study by Freddie Mac, for instance, confirmed what previous Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation studies had found: that African-Americans have disproportionate levels of credit problems, which explains why they have a harder time qualifying for mortgage money. As Freddie Mac found, blacks with incomes of $65,000 to $75,000 a year have on average worse credit records than whites making under $25,000."

"To avoid the possibility of a denied or delayed application," advises the NCRC in its deadpan tone, "lending institutions have an incentive to make formal agreements with community organizations." By intervening—even just threatening to intervene—in the CRA review process, left-wing nonprofit groups have been able to gain control over eye-popping pools of bank capital, which they in turn parcel out to individual low-income mortgage seekers. A radical group called ACORN Housing has a $760 million commitment from the Bank of New York; the Boston-based Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America has a $3-billion agreement with the Bank of America; a coalition of groups headed by New Jersey Citizen Action has a five-year, $13-billion agreement with First Union Corporation. Similar deals operate in almost every major U.S. city. Observes Tom Callahan, executive director of the Massachusetts Affordable Housing Alliance, which has $220 million in bank mortgage money to parcel out, "CRA is the backbone of everything we do."

"The result of all this activity, argues the CEO of one midsize bank, is that "banks are promising to make loans they would have made anyway, with some extra aggressiveness on risky mortgages thrown in."

"Boston-based Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America. Chief executive Bruce Marks has set out to become the Wal-Mart of home mortgages for lower-income households. Using churches and radio advertising to reach borrowers, he has made NACA a brand name nationwide, with offices in 21 states, and he plans to double that number within a year. With "delegated underwriting authority" from the banks, NACA itself—not the banks—determines whether a mortgage applicant is qualified, and it closes sales right in its own offices. It expects to close 5,000 mortgages next year, earning a $2,000 origination fee on each. Its annual budget exceeds $10 million.

Marks, a Scarsdale native, NYU MBA, and former Federal Reserve employee, unabashedly calls himself a "bank terrorist"—his public relations spokesman laughingly refers to him as "the shark, the predator," and the NACA newspaper is named the Avenger. They're not kidding: bankers so fear the tactically brilliant Marks for his ability to disrupt annual meetings and even target bank executives' homes that they often call him to make deals before they announce any plans that will put them in CRA's crosshairs. A $3 billion loan commitment by Nationsbank, for instance, well in advance of its announced merger with Bank of America, "was a preventive strike," says one NACA spokesman.

Marks is unhesitatingly candid about his intent to use NACA to promote an activist, left-wing political agenda."

"Even without a no-down-payment policy, the pressure on banks to make CRA-related loans may be leading to foreclosures. Though bankers generally cheerlead for CRA out of fear of being branded racists if they do not, the CEO of one midsize bank grumbles that 20 percent of his institution's CRA-related mortgages, which required only $500 down payments, were delinquent in their very first year, and probably 7 percent will end in foreclosure. "The problem with CRA," says an executive with a major national financial-services firm, "is that banks will simply throw money at things because they want that CRA rating." From the banks' point of view, CRA lending is simply a price of doing business—even if some of the mortgages must be written off. The growth in very large banks—ones most likely to sign major CRA agreements—also means that those advancing the funds for CRA loans are less likely to have to worry about the effects of those loans going bad: such loans will be a small portion of their lending portfolios."

It will take a Republican president to change or abolish CRA, so firmly wedded to it is the Clinton administration and so powerfully does it serve Democratic Party interests. When Senator Gramm attacked the CRA for its role in funding advocacy groups and for the burden it imposes on banks, the Clinton administration fought back furiously, willing to let the crucial Financial Services Modernization Act, to which Gramm had attached his CRA changes, die, unless Gramm dropped demands that, for instance, CRA reviews become less frequent. In the end, Gramm, despite his key position as the chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs (even the committee's name reflects a CRA consciousness) and his willingness to hold repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act hostage to CRA reform, could only manage to require community groups to make public their agreements with banks, disclosing the size of their loan commitments and fees."
http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_...on_dollar.html

BTW, ALL the above was written and forseen way back in the winter of 2000!!!!!!

Well, Pres. Bush tried. Many, many times. But the Majority they had was too slim to get any changes through. And after the Dems took Majority control, there was no way any changes were going to be made. This has been the Democrats playground. And at our expense!!
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MORE....as reported in the LIBERAL New York Times on Nov 4th, 1999:

The deal-maker, as reported in the New York Times, Nov. 4, 1999:

Your link is to a blog, not a news source, and it did not work.

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Well, Pres. Bush tried. Many, many times. But the Majority they had was too slim
They only need a majority, not a super majority, which by your own admission is what they had, and they could not get the legislation through.

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to get any changes through. And after the Dems took Majority control, there was no way any changes were going to be made. This has been the Democrats playground. And at our expense!!
I am starting to get the impression that you do not like two things.

Reality.
Democrats.
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Your link is to a blog, not a news source, and it did not work.
No, the main link above is NOT to a blog. It's to CJ---a highly respected New York City Journal. And it works for me when I click on it.....so must be your 'puter.


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They only need a majority, not a super majority, which by your own admission is what they had, and they could not get the legislation through.
Not true. The Dems could---and did---block the attempts by Bush and others, including McCain to get any reform related to the housing crisis through.



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I am starting to get the impression that you do not like two things.

Reality.
Democrats.
And I have learned that you don't care for FACTS---even when they stare you in the face. The 'reality' IS that Democrats did NOT want any changes for this problem that many other leaders....EXCEPT them....could see coming. They refused to address it. UNTIl this July---just less than 2 months ago, when it was too late.
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