Koga makes my point so clear. If you are a pro-choicer, then how are you going to come to any kind of meaningful solution when people talk about you like that? It's the exact same thing on the other side of the argument. Neither side is willing to admit they may not be right--and both are battling to a standstill over who is right, and neither side is interested in presenting options that might work to ease both sides of the problem. Whenever the topic comes up it always ends up like it does now, devolving into name calling and spewing hatred towards one another, instead of fixing it.