
04-30-2008, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
What I'd like to know, is why they are NOT entitled to compensation?
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Because I don't feel our current Government should have to admit responsibility for something that a past Government was responsible for. Offering compensation is basically admitting fault on our behalf, when our Government had nothing to do with the decisions that were made back then.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
They didn't. They very specifically apologised on behalf of the government and parliament ONLY. And he covered the `past' issue as well. Some of the members of parliament today were members of parliament when this happened. So it's still a current issue, in that sense.
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But should our Government of today have had to apologise on behalf of a past Government? I believe this is the issue that most divided the country.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
Not everyone supported the apology, no. But the very vast majority did, and just about all politicians, too, of all political viewpoints.
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Hmm, which State are you from, again? Your polls would have been different to the ones shown here, I'd imagine. If I remember correctly, the polls varied day to day, but they seemed to be split down the middle. Not sure about the national polls, though.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
Perhaps nothing will. Which is why you were wrong to state that it was `always about money' and that the first thing the Aboriginals did was turn around and demand money.
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I will admit I was wrong in saying that.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
I don't disagree with this - and it was something that was acknowledged during the apology.
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Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
Yes. It was written in the legislature, and quoted by Kevin Rudd during his speech.
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Fair enough again.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
What made you change your mind?
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I thought about it. I didn't know everything at first, I had supported an apology because I just knew that these people claimed to have been treated unfairly, and I thought they should be compensated for that. Then I began thinking, and reading and hearing what people thought, and many people seemed to think that the Government should not apologise for something a previous Government was responsible for. I could see the logic in that, so I started to sway in my views.
I then started wondering if all Aboriginals claiming to be part of the 'Stolen Generation' were actually part of it all. I began hearing about Aboriginal children taken away for good reasons, like the reasons I have already stated, and I thought those children could not possibly claim to have been 'stolen'.
I ended up seeing both sides, but I felt stronger about not apologising.
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Originally Posted by Chesby05
For what reasons?
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Honestly, I am not sure. Obviously, that isn't a good enough excuse, but then, the people who also doubt the existance of the SG don't really have good reason to, eithor. They just do.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that what happened to those people wasn't wrong, and unfair, because if that happened to me, I'd be pretty angry and upset, too. I just dislike calling this time in history a 'Stolen Generation'. Surely there is another name for it?
I don't know if we have evidence to prove that every Aboriginal claiming to be a victim of the SG is actually a victim, but if there is evidence to prove this, that is all well and good, and I will acknowledge that these people were unfairly removed from their homes, but I draw the line at compensation.
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Well, not according to Mercedes Corby. 
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