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Old 05-04-2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hairymarx View Post
What I said is: "Creationism and evolutionary theory are NOT NECESSARILY exclusive to one another". I personally believe in evolutionary creationism rather than say the tenets of the old testament. I believe that an unknown force (God) at the beginning of time and space created matter and anti-matter which was the catalyst for the big bang which proceeded to then bring the universe into being. From this, the evolutionary process began to take shape.
It sounds as though you're defining God as the force (with unknown properties) that caused the existence of space-time. This is technically okay, however I think it is unwise, since most people consider God to be some kind of personal entity. To choose the word "God" for that unknown force loads it with the implication that it is a person of some kind, which is not necessarily the case, since absolutely nothing about that force is known.

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Although from the outset this explanation may seem to some to be far fetched, it nevertheless has more basis in reality than the alternative . In other words, it seems more or less improbable to believe that the universe emerged from an empty void of nothingness. The reality is that distinct things emerge as a result of a process of quantiative changes to something else. These quantiative changes in other words, eventually result in qualiatitive changes which results in something becoming something else.
There is no official "athiestic assertion which assumes that matter and anti-matter emerged from a clear blue sky so to speak". Many atheists acknowledge that such a force may have operated, but they simply do not assume that such a force was a person of some kind, a "god". They acknowledge that absolutely nothing is known about the event which caused the universe to exist.

I recall hearing a scientific theory that there is a kind of meta universe with physics of its own, and that our universe came into existence when two other universes collided, perhaps like the formation of bubbles from soapy water. This is a model that describes a phenomenon resulting in the existence of our universe, without that phenomenon being intelligent. I'm not asserting that this theory is actually correct, but just showing that such models do exist. (I do recall that this model fit the maths quite well, actually, however it's not really testable, so I doubt we'll ever know anything beyond theory.)

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