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Originally Posted by Bobcat1
What American propaganda machine? Are we bashing Fox again? Newsflash: Fox hasn't been around for 60 years.
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Who said anything about Fox? I bet you don't even know what propaganda is.
Which of the following quotes is propaganda?
1. If you're not with us, You're against us.
2. The US military fights for freedom and democracy.
3. I will vow to rid the world of evil-doers.
Answer: All the above
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This is so simplistic it's mind-boggling. Living in a democracy presumes that, at least some part of the time, the government is going to engage in policy which you disagree with.
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And it is our right to voice our objections whenever a country is engaging is something we don't agree with. Especially when it is wrong or illegal and kills hundreds of thousands of innocents.
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Only little children believe they must always get their way.
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You mean like Bush and his administration? Or are you talking about me. Are you implying that I should just keep quiet and never dissent when I feel a certain policy is wrong. How Totalitarian of you. Funny how you guys pretend to claim you're against Totalitarian style governments yet you show examples of supporting it.
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Congress has ratified every war effort the US has been involved in, which would presume your opinion is the one that's "blinded" and extreme.
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Yes, they either perpetuated the propaganda themselves or where the victims of it.
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Our soldiers take an oath to fulfill their obligation to their country. It is to their own dishonor that a few in our military are only fair-weather patriots and break their oath.
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Tell me, how would you feel if a soldier was ordered to fire on a group of pre-schoolers. Do you support his oath then or do you support his dishonor if he feels to not take orders. Also noticed you glossed over my Nazi analogy.
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No nation in the world - not a one - could have an effective military if its men-at-arms could arbitrarily chose not to serve. That's why these men are called deserters.
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No nation in the world would ever do war crimes, acts of genocide, illegal invasions, countless killings of civilians if they didn't blindly follow the orders of their leaders. Every mass killing throughout history was done by willing men to take up arms and kill for reasons none other than propaganda. Our side is right, their side is wrong.