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Old 05-05-2008, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fifthofnovember View Post
Well, haven't most gods been just anthropomorphized powers and principles? That aside, I think it is better to use the word Creator when speaking of God as the prime mover. Another consideration besides the lack of time before the universe existed(which totally screws the "natural" Big Bang theory) is the question, how did the alleged singularity that held the universe come to be? The Big Bang Theory doesn't fully solve the origin question.
The "Big Bang" Theory is not an explanation of origin, but of the very beginning of the universe. As in, X started the universe, *then* there was a big bang. It is a descriptive model of what happened, not an explanatory model of why it happened. The latter is beyond the scope of science, unless somehow there is an observable context outside our universe, or before the "beginning".

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You may be thinking of Pribram and Bohm's Holographic theory. This theory, which I believe to be correct (as far as it has been researched) explains things such as how electrons "jump" from one shell to the next without crossing the space in between (because the shells are where the waves from the "implicit order" converge to form "electrons". The implicit order is the "metauniverse" you are talking about, I think.), and a host of other questions previously unexplained. It isn't that 2 universes collided to create this one, it is that 2 universes of complementary waves continuously collide to create what we call the physical universe. However, saying that the universe came from other universes only changes the question to, "how did those universes come to be?"
I remember it had something to do with an advanced theory called "M-theory" or "Manifold theory", which I didn't understand in the slightest. Your comment on the fact that it fails to explain the true origin of everything (including the metaverse), is irrelevant. I understand that it doesn't, and that the same could be said of the explanation that there was a being which made the deliberate decision to create everything. The whole point for me bringing that theory up was to show that there exists an explanation for the beginning of our universe (the "force" you mentioned a few posts ago), that did not involve an anthropomorphic entity, that the existence of such a "force" need not imply that it's "God".
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