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Old 05-07-2008, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by akc814ilv View Post
And the point that alot of atheists such as myself will make is WHY are some of these things you mentioned considered "bad" things??

Maybe there are more prescriptions for anti depressants because back in the day people didnt know what was wrong with them. Now through medicine and psychology we are able to identify psychological issues and treat them.

What is wrong with pornography?? Just because you dont like it doesnt mean that it is immoral. That is a religious thing and I understand that. But to me I personally enjoy looking at naked women, and yes they are also fun to have sex with.

Most "drugs" that are illegal are actually not as bad for you as 95% of drugs behind the counter at a Pharmacy. Many in our government though decided to label these things as "evil" and now we have people being thrown in prison and having their lives ruined for taking something that makes them feel good. What is wrong with feeling good?? Yes I agree drugs can be abused....But so can red meat, candy, caffeine, and plenty of other things. Thousands of people die in the U.S. every year from huffing gasoline...SHould we ban gas?? Oh wait, cant do that lol.

Whats wrong with computer games....That doesnt make any sense. Its FUN for people. Its also NO DIFFERENT than what you are doing here on these message boards. Yeah young people these days probably need to get outside more and do more physical activity...But playing computer games isnt a bad thing in terms of "morals".

I play a game of texas hold em with my friends almost every saturday night. We each buy in with 20 dollars and end up playing for most of the night. We also drink a few beers and listen to music while we are playing. So I am gambling and drinking alcohol. Does that then make me and my friends bad people?? We aren't hurting anyone else, we are simply enjoying each others company and playing some cards. Yes gambling can be destructive if it goes overboard.....But its no different than someone who say pays more attention to sports than their wife and kids, or something along those lines.

This is one of my biggest gripes about our society. People try to push THEIR morals down the rest of our throats. I enjoy porn, I enjoy video games, I had plenty of sex with my wife before we got married...Had a kid together actually 4 years before that happened. I enjoy the occassional beer, I use foul language occassionally, and like to gamble every now and then. I dont use drugs, however I simply dont use them because they are illegal and I dont want to risk going to prison when I have a kid to take care of. If they were legal I would probably use a few of them on an occasional basis.

I dont consider myself a bad person. I served my nation proudly in the Marine Corps and did tours in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I am hard working, pay my taxes, am attending college, make sure to be informed before I vote, I am a good father and husband, a good friend, and I try to treat everyone I meet...Even online, with respect because I expect it in return.

Now I respect your decision to believe in God. I dont share your faith but if other people want to believe in God they can. If it makes you a better person and brings more happiness to your life then I think its a great thing and im happy for you.

But the whole "morals" argument is one I get frustrated over because who are you or anyone else to say what is or isn't "moral".

You may ask then, what do I consider immoral?? Pretty much for me it boils down to interfering with others free will and personal happiness. Dont kill, dont rape, dont steal. Those sorts of things. For instance I support legalization of most drugs...However if you were to say take them and drive and then hurt someone, I would throw the book at you in a court of law.

But people need to keep their OWN morals in check and live by them, but not push them down the rest of our throats.
First of all, Thank you for your service.

We can't have 6 billion people on this Planet all following "their own rules".

The only Universal truths and morality can be found in the Word of God.

Without this Foundation of God's Words found in the Old and New Testaments,

Morality does not exist.

No God?

No right and No wrong.

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