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Originally Posted by MasTequila
Nice... at what point did I say the "innocents" were murderers? I said our enemy in a time of war needs to die to end the war. If Japan/ Germany/ Muslims / Operation Pink choose to go to war with America and in the process kill any single American, whatever happens to their community during the war is justified. It is not our responsibility to put our soldiers at risk to protect their citizens.
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Ok to rephase: you are fine with innocenst dieing because they are led by murderers, even if you draw a distinction between the two. Great.
Actually it is- humanity evolved some moral and eventually legal guidlines about how low we stoop in our darkest hour of madness that is war- one of those rules is not killing civilians, especially not intentionally.
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Originally Posted by Roberto Bear
First and Foremost as John McCain has already said, "WAR IS UGLY".
Next there is no such thing as fair fight, or if your are pushed to fighting then it is to win, if you lose others will come at again & again, and to send message to all, don't push me, or you'll get the same. That's what fighting is about, there are no controls. If you want controls watch Boxing, that is a sport it is not fighting.
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Right and ensure that the very wost of humanity occurs again. Don't talk to me about teh bitter reality, you should be happy to think that even when people go nuts and start stupid wars with each other, some sanity has been erected to protect people. That includes you and your nation btw.
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Originally Posted by Roberto Bear
Something you will always fail to realize and admit is, not only did droping the bomb save American lives from furthering the war from Japan. Dropping the bomb has saved countless LIVES around the Globe, from all who have though about attacking us, but were afraid of the retaliation, and what would happen to them.
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Christ what denial. You were the strongest with traditional military after the war(economically too), were part of an overwhelming coalition to do it, had just crushed your enemies far more substantially than the spectres you bring up now and went on to gain favour through lending a hand with the Marshall plan. You were fine, you were safe- and Japan was all alone.
To get America's message across, your government didn't have to test it on japanese heads, and their consequentally mutated children to come. A nice test on an island somewhere if you desperately needed to convince Russia you were MAD would have surficed.
"Countless" you mean you have absolutely no idea what phantom wars would have been fought, no actuall numbers- not particularily persuaisive compared to the hard numbers of these bombings is it? And I repeat once again, that does not change the fact taht it was a war crime, and an act of terror. LITERALLY.