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Old 05-08-2008, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Foolosophy View Post
My references are academic and proper citations that have been peer reviewed

NOT web links which may be accurate, (sometimes they are)

If you want to know what the record of the USA's appaling vetoing behaviour in the UN security council is, you got the official source and documentation

Notice how the people in here have not being able to counter the list of points I outlined? Rather than engage in honest debate, they insult, marginalise and threaten. The toosl of the bully and the wittless.

I will wait for the counter evidence - see what happens! I cant wait forever though - 6 years maximum!
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....and the USA is a crumbling oligarchy to boot.

The USA has always been a rogue state and is fast becoming a failed rogue state.

Most of the US population is armed, paranoid, hateful and constantly drenched with propaganda and fear.

And when the curtains of economic death falls upon the fragile and selfish individualistic social structures, there will be nowhere to hide. The streets will be filled with the blood of its people who will kill themselves because of the decades long brain washing of US world superiority and its cruel corporate welfare programs that value the concentration of wealth and power over the human rights of people.

The USA is not a decent society - it's cruel and morally corrupt, both internally and with its criminal foreign policy agenda.

THAT'S WHY THE USA IS THE MOST HATED NATION ON EARTH!
The US is the first, functioning democracy on the face of the planet. The kind of democracy you are talking about only works in city-states in ancient Greece where everybody in the city has similar interests and there is no difference in the geographical interests. The US is only crumbling to the extent that the federal government is increasing its power, by majority vote of course. An oligarchy is headed by a group that is succeeded by its hereditary decendents (Bush and Bush do not count, they were both voted into office, and if you disagree I have no time to debunk conspiracy theories). If you are calling the US a rouge state because it does not do everything the international community tells it to do, than yes, it is a rouge state, but that because it is a democracy and its people can make their own decisions about what they want to do. The fact that the most of the American people are armed, paranoid, and hateful is simply untrue (you sound like a certain elitist and his "bitter" comment). They are drenched in propaganda, a result of free speech, so they are drenched by propaganda from all sides. If you think an economic death awaits those who favor individualistic systems than I would like to remind you that democracy is the political system that lets capitalism exist. I would also remind you that, economically, capitalist systems are irrefutably superior to socialist ones, the only problem is the complaint that the workers are mistreated and that wealth is not evenly distributed. Last time I walked down the street here in America, it was not filled with the blood of people who killed themselves because they were brainwashed by our democratic government. It's funny that you want to tell society what to think while supposedly supporting democracy. It's also funny that you are a liberal lamenting the moral corruptness in our society. It supports my belief that all the religious fanatics are liberals and would go back to the democrats if it were not for the social upheaval of the '60s that the dems want back. The US may be the most hated nation on earth and that's why we want to get those terrorists back!

I think this is a complete, logical argument against your outline of points and it didn't take 6 years.
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