Originally Posted by akc814ilv

Your welcome....And thank you for the "thanks" that you gave me.

Where we disagree is I dont think you need religion to have a basic sense of right and wrong.

Law provides that for us, however law shouldnt over step their boundaries.

Im not saying that everyone on Earth should do entirely as they please. Im saying you should be able to do whatever you please, as long as your not interfering with what anyone else wants to do....Interfering with their Free Will.

Murder takes away from free will....If you murder you should be thrown in prison or executed. What to do with those people is up to the politicians, but clearly they should be punished.

Rape is vile and imposes on that persons free will. Same thing as above.

If you steal from someone else you are harming them in a way....So yes you should be punished.

But why should we have laws that tell the rest of us what we can and cant put into our bodies, simply because someone else has decided that it is bad for you??

Why have laws that say what can and cant be considered "legal" in the bedroom (im talking about gay marriage mostly).

I dont believe in God, yet I live by the simple rule of "treat others the way I want to be treated". Im not ever having to pray for the strength to treat others well, and I dont ever consider hurting other people for no reason.

So I dont feel that it is necessary to have religion in order to be a decent human being. I also dont feel like religious morals should be determining any of our laws. Government should be in place to protect people from those who would cause us harm. I DONT think government should be there to protect people from THEMSELVES. People should be able to do what they want with their own bodies, regardless of what the bible or any other religious text says.

Again...Im not trying to tell you what to believe in. If you are happy with your faith I think that is great and in turn im happy for you. However religious morality causes UNhappiness in mine and other peoples lives and so I think its not fair that some of those unnecessary laws are shoved down our throats.