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Old 09-28-2008, 03:13 PM
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You haven't been paying much attention to what was going on around you have you? The housing and financial crisis didnt start within the last year, experts have been calling this fall out for about 2 or 3 years now and still nothing was done. Your premise to blame in on the democrats lacks substance. IT WAS BOTH PARTIES THAT FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! Once you can seem to understand that concept then you will be able to understand the situation that we are in today.
It was both parties that failed the American people, but to focus purely on what a party did neglects the action which lead to failure. If we could temporarily forget about partisan politics and concentrate on policy issue, then we could actually have a debate. And the action which lead to disaster was federal support and intervention in the housing market, which encouraged certain companies to give bad loans with federal protection given in order to help poorer people who shouldn't have gotten loans. It isn't a certain party that got us into this crisis, it's a dangerous policy of government intervention and involvement. That's the real issue, not party politics.
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:15 PM
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I didn't say the the republicans didn't have anything to do with this I am questioning what the democrats have been doing about it the last two years.
They always tell us about these kinds of bills and if Bush had vetoed it we would have know it by now.
Again you must not have an understanding of how our government works, when policies and laws are passed generally speaking they do not go into effect immediately. So with this general knowledge one could assume that it is entirely to early to see major changes that have been made in Congress.
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It was both parties that failed the American people, but to focus purely on what a party did neglects the action which lead to failure. If we could temporarily forget about partisan politics and concentrate on policy issue, then we could actually have a debate. And the action which lead to disaster was federal support and intervention in the housing market, which encouraged certain companies to give bad loans with federal protection given in order to help poorer people who shouldn't have gotten loans. It isn't a certain party that got us into this crisis, it's a dangerous policy of government intervention and involvement. That's the real issue, not party politics.
I couldnt agree with you more, however several members on this forum from both the right and the left, will continue to state that it was either sides fault. And this very thing is what is killing the American people. We need a solution to the crisis not more partisan bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
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Again you must not have an understanding of how our government works, when policies and laws are passed generally speaking they do not go into effect immediately. So with this general knowledge one could assume that it is entirely to early to see major changes that have been made in Congress.
So you are saying for two years the congress knew nothing about the economy? McCain told them in 2005 that something needed to be done about F&F did they do anything? Don't you think any government should act before the crisis.
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